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Elijah
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« on: May 07, 2008, 10:25:19 AM »

Hi my Name is Rick (Richard),
I beleive i am Elijah (but don't read into that, i merely refer to the warning that must be accomplished when the end comes).
I am a learning man, (meaning always currently learning)
not just a self-learning man
Which means, I find truths that then revise even what i myself had
said to be true. But when i am corrected by truths that prove me
wrong, it is the further evidence that daily and weekly corrects me
and proves me wrong, it is not others who know more than me,
or better than me, or others correcting me.
I am accused of therefore knowing everything on every topic.
It is unfair to judge me that way, but i must face that it will
be so because that is what we are like as people, and the
honest sincere reason is because people feel they need to protect
the young and innocent and victims and so they dont wish
to have more lies in the world. Like Jesus said, they will kill you
to do it for God. Who could know this better than the Catholic Church
who is accused of killing everyone for God in the same way
Jesus was killed by his church of Jews. No one who ever came forth
with new truth, new discovery of what is, no one was ever accepted
without bing burned by those who wish to know where you get all this
bull. Truth will go thru the fire, it'll be tested. Moses was tested... they say
by God... but even the people tested him, either to see if he really
knew God, or by doubting that he did. Samson was tested thrown between
being a citizen of two nations as Moses was, Nehemiah was tested and
accused of building Jerusalem to make himself the  Christ king. We know
Jesus was accused of thinking himself God (we dont need to argue if he was God,
the point is he was accused of teaching things he wasnt teaching). In his trial
they said he is going to destroy our temple in 3 days.
But I am not blind,
I do see that although the Catholic Church is this way and
guilty, that all religions are guilty. This is why cut off or DEATH by
excommunication is the better way rather than actually kill the
ones who appear as wrong. The south americans and central
americans and mexicans have a wave of hate from scholars
telling them all that The Catholic Church killed their people for
the Bible, and these modern scholars ignore the human
sacirifces these natives did. So the war in words and accusations
always exists with who's of God and who is not.
The enemy to each Church will lie and say things untrue.
I understand this because me raised as a Witness of Jehovah
grew up being told by other school children abd by adults and by teachers
that we did not believe Jesus was Christ, or that we denied he was
from heaven if he is not God. So yes, i agree each religion is accused
of things they do not teach.
BUT and it is a very big BUT....
the phrase Catholic truths is an example of language people will always
confuse. Does it mean what Catholics say is the truth, and the world wrong.
Does it mean Catholics have Truth, all Truth, God's Truth.
What if we countered it with the phrase worldly lies or Catholic lies.
Since this forum probably has nonCatholics in it, and it intends to clerify the
Catholic stand, it is important to note people will interpret what is said
by what they can read into the language... people will always do this.
They do it because of EMOTION. Note the thoughts when phrasing the
following:
Catholic truths versus worldly lies   (does this mean theyre right we're wrong)
Catholic truths versus Catholic lies  (does this mean division within)
Worldy lies versus worldly truths   (does it exist)
Catholic lies versus the world   (save us the world from that lying Catholic Church)
In other words, people are debating what are you calling truth here...
is it because who you are or what you say or who you think you are, or
happy not to be them.
For this reason I wish to draw up a debate on origin.
Not did you come from good origin or bad origin.
Not are you Jesus or are you pagan.
But rather the fact that as people divide, it is not just the bad who
divide off and leave, the good do so too when the Leader
is not doing his Leading. Most people Catholic and nonCatholic
do not know that Catholicism means "universal" which refers
more to all united, than the concept of all truth all right.
So the question is whether the division
or unity is good or bad, and whether it was too soon of a division
not waiting for the unity in mass to recognize the need and time
to correct the whole Church. Or is it the whole Church will not allow
itself to be corrected and so runs off the cliff to die.

In my studies of calendar, I have discovered processes of division,
much of based on whether Peleg went to heaven, whether Noah
went to heaven, whether Babylon ruled or Egypt ruled, whether
Pharaoh was king fo kings or Babylon was, etc. However, ignored
by most is that meanwhile another world is growing out there
so far away that it is China and Mayans. I will agree they lost the
hold of God in being so far away. But becoming Catholic may not
be any different than what they had become in dividing off of
Ur and Babylon back then in the years 2239 BC, 2030 BC,
1991 BC, 1943 BC, 1900 BC, 1625 BC, 1600 BC, and 1513 BC.
The major migrations until Moses wrote Genesis at the Exodus.
Division and migrations have existed since, never ceasing.

Though the world sees that it is not Catholic, because it is Buddhist,
and Hindu, and Shinto, which they know those Catholics and Christians
and Moslems and Jews regard as pagan, they share a common worship
with Catholics. Most christian religions who have divided from Catholicism
have published books on Catholic ways which they perceive are
exactly like the pagans and from the pagans. However, rather than
debate the holidays and rituals as being from pagans to taint us and
dirty us in the eyes of God, i have been amazed to find many holidays
actually mark Genesis dates as being truth of what Moses says is
the historic word of God as to what truly happened back then.
This is not my way to make pagan holidays to appear as godly,
of God, as if false words of mine to clean up the holidays and deceive
people into christianizing the holidays. But rather, it is my attempt to
show you that the holidays are pagan not for their origin but for how
they were twisted into ritual which becomes lies.
It is in this way that the Catholic Church then aligns to the same as
pagans.... but so do all these other religions do too then.
The problem is RITUAL... when knowledge is too deep for people
to understand, the person who does understand then creates a ritual
in hopes of saving people who do not know how they are being saved.
A good modern example is, if they cant understand what vaccines
and antibiotics are, then just make these and have the people use
them once a year. In this way, you dont know germs, you dont know
if the shot kills germs, or poisons you, or if its a weak germ you kill off,
but you trust the ritual will work. Think of all the bad things though by
this ritual ... you become poisoned by the constant shots. You dont
fight off the weak germ vaccination and so the injected germ kills you.
You take your shots every year and the germs in the whole world become
immune to the poison of the shot, so now you die from both the germ
and also the antibiotic. NOTHING is better than education. A ritual should not
be long term. Obeying a Leader is for people who dont have time to be
taught and schooled before the disaster. Obedience is not for long term
laziness of not wanting education and self responsibility for your own llife.
This is why the Catholic Church can be seen as just a great mass of
people performing ritual that doesnt save lives on earth. They do as
the pagans do, kneel, pray repeated words, incantations, signs with
the hands, stand up, sit down, (Pentecostal.... now roll over).
Okay lighten up, take the joke, get the point. It means your life.
I am open to questions, start asking.




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